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http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Ultimate-Performance-2010_702482.htm

Not to bad, this is the first one I've wanted.

Blake get on this asap!!!

i was waiting for the wheelie after his burnout at the end

Sweet car... nice vid as well!

3 days ago
Did I read that dyno correct? Only 314.81 HP and 311.59 ft-lb on the pre-turbo dyno pull... shits weak stock

qft

hmmm must be nice.

Nice, that is the way it should come from Chevy. Hell, I am just now getting my car to the pointit should have come from Subaru

slammin86 wrote:

3 days ago
Did I read that dyno correct? Only 314.81 HP and 311.59 ft-lb on the pre-turbo dyno pull... shits weak stock

qft

i could be HELLA wrong, but weren't those cars supposed to make pretty close to 400hp to the crank stock?

and it only made like 530hp to the wheels w/ the turbo kit...

HeatNuts wrote:

slammin86 wrote:

3 days ago
Did I read that dyno correct? Only 314.81 HP and 311.59 ft-lb on the pre-turbo dyno pull... shits weak stock

qft

i could be HELLA wrong, but weren't those cars supposed to make pretty close to 400hp to the crank stock?

and it only made like 530hp to the wheels w/ the turbo kit...

qft

Its a camaro..... it can't be faster than a base model Corvette or all of their marketing would go to s**t. I'm surprised it made above 300.

Think about it......

I dig it.

That has to be an auto, the 6 spds are around 372

i love how they put in the vid description that "these kits put 600-750 hp out" yet the dyno graph was way lower

speedfreek09 wrote:i love how they put in the vid description that "these kits put 600-750 hp out" yet the dyno graph was way lower

530hp to the wheels probably is well over 600hp at the crank which is where they would rate the HP numbers for the turbo kit.
Also, I would say a 215 HP gain over stock at the rear wheels is pretty impressive.

Weak! In my opinion it should make this stock. Why not? If GM would use overhead cams, variable valve timing, VTEC, 4 valves per cyl, hemi heads this could make 600 N/A whp stock easy.
I mean look at Honda. 2.0L making 240hp, what would that equal with this many inches? Yup BAD A$$! What's the freakin holdup? Start with the Vette then go to the SS Camaro with it. Stop giving us "performance" cars that are still slower than cars made in the 60's! When you go to the track all you see is $25,000 to $40,000 cars trying to make it in the 13's or even 14's stock. A $10,000 build can net you 10's easy with a "classic car" all motor. Just my opinion, I know there is much to say on this subject such as gas mileage, leather interiors and creature comforts, cornering ability etc. It's just what I would like to see our technology actually put to use.

Check this out! Just a huge list 1/4 mile times for maybe 200 of our most favorite cars.
http://www.autofacts.ca/classics/fast.htm

Interesting to look at, is the vehicles compared, modern to muscle car eras.....

car 1/4 time 1/4 speed
69 Corvette Stingray 454ci 10.6 132
06 Corvette Z06 LS7 7.0L 10.85 129.5
09 Corvette ZR1 S/C 6.2L 11.2 130.5

64 Ford Fairlane 427ci 11.76 122.78
97 Shelby Cobra 427ci 11.8 121.0
07 Ford GT500 S/C 5.4L 12.7 114.2
03 Ford Mustang Cobra S/C 4.6L 12.8 113.2
03 Ford Mustang Mach1 4.6L 13.13 105.51

69 Camaro 427ci 12.76 107
99 Camaro Z28 LS1 346ci 12.89 109.18
69 Camaro SS 396ci 13.0 108.6
00 Camaro SS LS1 346ci 13.5 107.3

70 Pontiac GTO 455ci 13.53 103.51
67 Pontiac GTO 400ci 13.37 103.4
04 Pontiac GTO LS1 346ci 13.62 104.78

09 Dodge Challenger 6.1L Hemi SRT8 13.8 103
71 Plymouth Cuda 440 six-pack 13.72 106
70 Dodge Challenger R/T 440 6-pack 13.62 104.3
70 Dodge Challenger SE 426 Hemi 13.1 107.12

gerwulf wrote:Interesting to look at, is the vehicles compared, modern to muscle car eras.....

car 1/4 time 1/4 speed
69 Corvette Stingray 454ci 10.6 132
06 Corvette Z06 LS7 7.0L 10.85 129.5
09 Corvette ZR1 S/C 6.2L 11.2 130.5

64 Ford Fairlane 427ci 11.76 122.78
97 Shelby Cobra 427ci 11.8 121.0
07 Ford GT500 S/C 5.4L 12.7 114.2
03 Ford Mustang Cobra S/C 4.6L 12.8 113.2
03 Ford Mustang Mach1 4.6L 13.13 105.51

69 Camaro 427ci 12.76 107
99 Camaro Z28 LS1 346ci 12.89 109.18
69 Camaro SS 396ci 13.0 108.6
00 Camaro SS LS1 346ci 13.5 107.3

70 Pontiac GTO 455ci 13.53 103.51
67 Pontiac GTO 400ci 13.37 103.4
04 Pontiac GTO LS1 346ci 13.62 104.78

09 Dodge Challenger 6.1L Hemi SRT8 13.8 103
71 Plymouth Cuda 440 six-pack 13.72 106
70 Dodge Challenger R/T 440 6-pack 13.62 104.3
70 Dodge Challenger SE 426 Hemi 13.1 107.12

most of the 60-70's times aren't on stock cars.

The factory appearing stock drag classes are just now getting close to dropping into the 10's and those cars have lots of expesive work done to all factory stock parts (i.e. 69 corvette with #'s matching 69 block with matching stock intake and on factory style tires, etc...) (Now put good tires on those cars and they'd be a lil faster but still. that being said the corvettes are the only cars that i think have properly progressed at all (i.e. gas mileage, horsepower, and suspension) and still not as much as they could have done.

most of the 60-70's times aren't on stock cars.

The factory appearing stock drag classes are just now getting close to dropping into the 10's and those cars have lots of expesive work done to all factory stock parts (i.e. 69 corvette with #'s matching 69 block with matching stock intake and on factory style tires, etc...) (Now put good tires on those cars and they'd be a lil faster but still. that being said the corvettes are the only cars that i think have properly progressed at all (i.e. gas mileage, horsepower, and suspension) and still not as much as they could have done.[/quote]



Actually it says that the times shown for the above 69' Corvette was with drag radials and the car was otherwise stock. You can click on the small yellow button above next to these cars and get more info like this - http://www.autofacts.ca/classics/FAPC/ZL1Corvette.htm
The numbers show what I was trying to say, we need to progress! Or guess you could say go back to what are cars ran 40-50yrs ago that would be cool too! If I owned a new SS Camaro that I paid what $60,000 for and some 69' Camaro bone stock beat me i'd be a lil mad

malibu2envy wrote:most of the 60-70's times aren't on stock cars.

The factory appearing stock drag classes are just now getting close to dropping into the 10's and those cars have lots of expesive work done to all factory stock parts (i.e. 69 corvette with #'s matching 69 block with matching stock intake and on factory style tires, etc...) (Now put good tires on those cars and they'd be a lil faster but still. that being said the corvettes are the only cars that i think have properly progressed at all (i.e. gas mileage, horsepower, and suspension) and still not as much as they could have done.

Actually it says that the times shown for the above 69' Corvette was with drag radials and the car was otherwise stock. You can click on the small yellow button above next to these cars and get more info like this - http://www.autofacts.ca/classics/FAPC/ZL1Corvette.htm
The numbers show what I was trying to say, we need to progress! Or guess you could say go back to what are cars ran 40-50yrs ago that would be cool too! If I owned a new SS Camaro that I paid what $60,000 for and some 69' Camaro bone stock beat me i'd be a lil mad [/quote]

I used to have one of the old muscle car magazines that had a lot of these same muscle cars and their performance in it, yep, some of the cars did these 13 and 12 second times stock, some were tested with slicks and ran a bit faster, and there were a couple that the factory did cheat when they sent them out to the magazine to be tested. What the point is, a person could pick up something like one of these cars, go old school on building it, go faster than he could have if he spent a lot of money on buying something new. Instead of buying a brand new Camaro, a person could search till he found the right deal, do a lot of the work themselves, have a cooler, faster car in the end for less.

I did a quick search and found 5 67 Camaros for less than $20,000, and with $10,000 invested a person could have one bad ass Camaro for less than a new one. 8 1968 Camaros for less than $20,000, and 7 69s.